TTT Complete Recordings - Disc 3

Lyric Time Stamps

 

Disc One

(track number to the left)


1

The Battle of the Maiar

3

Lost in Emyn Muil

5 Pippin tears off his Elven Brooch
6 Burning of the Westfold
7 The Three Hunters chase the Uruk-hai
11 The Dead Marshes
12 "Wraiths on Wings" over the Dead Marshes
13 The White Wizard's reveal

13

Zirak Zigal

13

The Ents Will Wake Up

13

Shadowfax's Arrival at Fangorn

Disc Two

(track number to the left)


2

Thoden's Exorcism

3

Thodred's Funeral Procession

3

Lament For Thodred

3

Gandalf Farewells Thodred

7

This Is a Dream / Evenstar

7

Let Her Go

8

The Warg attack

9 owyn receives the news of Aragorn's fall

11

Aragorn's revival on the shore

12

The Elves leave Rivendell

12

Galadriel talks with Elrond

13

Faramir's memories of Boromir

15

Faramir's Seduction

Disc Three

(track number to the left)


2

An Entmoot is Called

3

Thoden suits up for battle

4

 The Elves arrive at Helm's Deep

8

Lament for Haldir

10

March of the Ents

11

Ride out with me

12

The White Rider arrives at Helm's Deep

12

The Ents attack Isengard

14

Gollum's Song
14 Seduction Theme
14 The Leave Taking
14 Evenstar

see notes at bottom of page


 

Scene: An Entmoot is Called +

CR-TTT Track: War Is Upon, C-2

Source Text: The Ents


[2:51] E-
[2:56] chu-
[3:00] ia- (till -3:10)
[3:26] nnen

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Scene: Thoden suits up for battle +

CR-TTT Track: Where Is the Horse and the Rider. C-3

Source Text: The Call

 

[3:05] Hwr
[3:09] cwm
[3:13] helm
[3:17] Hwr
[3:21] cwm
[3:25] byr
[3:29] ne
[3:33] Hwr
[3:37] cwm
[3:42] feax
[3:46] flw
[3:50] en
[3:54] de

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Scene: The Elves arrive at Helm's Deep +

CR-TTT Track: The Host of the Eldar, C-4

Source Text: Footsteps of Doom (0:00 - 0:11); Lament for Gandalf, chorus (0:12 - 0:40)

 

[0:00] Man
[0:02] ammen toltha
[0:03] i dann hen morn
[0:09] si danna -
[0:11] atha
[0:12] nauva
[0:18] mel
[0:21] memma
[0:22] nren sina
[0:27] nra l earo
[0:31] nr(i) il(firin)

[0:37] nair(elma)

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Scene: Lament for Haldir +

CR-TTT Track: Retreat, C-8

Source Text: Namari

 

Solo  

Chorus

[0:03] ar

[0:06] sindan

S

[0:13] riell

[0:19] caita

S

[0:23] ar ily [0:26] tier

[0:27] undul [0:30] v

[0:32] lum

[0:34] bul

[0:37]

S

S

[0:11] riello

S

S

[0:21] morni

[0:23] ar

[0:26] il

S

S

S

[0:34] bul

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Scene: March of the Ents +

CR-TTT Track: The Last March of the Ents, C-10

Source Text: The Ents

 

The TTT Live choir lyrics indicate that some 'sounds' were dropped, probably for ease of singing. They are shown in parenthesis.

choir:
[0:08] ri-
[0:11] than-
[0:13] nen i
[0:14] (g)even
[0:18] than
[0:19] gen i
[0:22] harn
[0:24] na fen
[0:28] na(s) i
[0:32] daur l
[0:35] dr ri-
[0:38] (s)tan-
(the phonetic lyrics indicate 'than')
[0:41] en ery-
[0:45] n

solo:
[0:49] echuiannen
[0:51] i ngelaidh
[0:53] da(g)ra(r)
[0:55] ri(s)tar
[0:57] thynd
[0:58] cua ta-
[1:00] war dam-
[1:03] ganed
(as indicated by the TTT Live choir lyrics. Sabsi can't hear 'ganed'. 'bedir' would be the next word if they were following the source text)

 

In the movie, this 'March of the Ents' music was also heard when Aragorn says to Thoden, "Ride out with me". Shore's original intention for "Ride out was me" was to use the music that was heard in the movie when Gandalf reveals himself in Fangorn Forest. It is that music, the Gandalf the White Theme, that is heard on the CR-TTT. Since the March of the Ents as heard at Helm's Deep is also not on the TTT-OST, there is no proper place to put the lyrics and timestamps. However, to sing along with the movie, should that be a wish of yours, use the lyrics and timing above singing the first section, "rithannen i geven thangen i harn na fen" twice before moving on to "nas i daur...", etc.

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Scene: Ride out with me - not in movie   -

CR-TTT Track: The Nazgl Attack, C-11

Source Text: The Call

 

[01:45] Hwr cwm helm Hwr cwm byrn(e) Hwr cwm feax flwende (2x)
[01:54] Hwr cwm hand on hearpestrenge Hwr cwm (scir) fr (scin)ende (2x)
[02:04] Hwr cwm helm Hwr cwm byrn(e) Hwr cwm feax flwende (2x)
[02:13] Hwr cwm hand on hearpestrenge Hwr cwm (scir) fr (scin)ende (2x)
[02:23] Hwr cwm helm Hwr cwm byrn(e) Hwr cwm feax flwende (2x)
[02:32] Hwr cwm hand on hearpestrenge Hwr cwm (scir) fr (scin)ende
[02:37] Hwr cwm helm Hwr cwm byrn(e)

 

Although originally written for the scene at Helm's Deep where they decide to ride out to meet their foes, it was replaced by the March of the Ents music (see entry above). This is a different version of the same music that's heard on the TTT-OST, track 16: Forth Eorlingas*. The sheet music for that iteration shows that a second choir is singing slowly underneath the faster triplets. I can't tell if that's the case here. For more info on the second choir, go HERE.

 

*which also was not heard in the movie. I had originally thought the music heard in on the TTT-OST, track 16 was the music intended for Helm's Deep but Doug Adams in the AS-TTT indicates that was, in fact, the music intended for a longer version of the Fangorn scene.

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Scene: The White Rider arrives at Helm's Deep +

CR-TTT Track: Thoden Rides Forth, C-12

Source Text: The Abyss (0:42...) The Mearas (1:14...)

 

0:42 - 0:46: (Ir)kat-lu(khud)

 
Solo 

by Ben Del Maestro

Chorus
 

[1:14] for
[1:15] thon

[1:14] for

[1:18] h
[1:20] ws
[1:21] scea
[1:18] thon
[1:22] du
[1:23] fx
[1:22] h
[1:26] ws
[1:27] ford
[1:29] eal
[1:26] waes
[1:30] ra
[1:31] m
[1:30] Scea
[1:34] du
[1:35] and
[1:36] h
[1:34] du
[1:38] fx
[1:42] hl

[1:38] fx
[1:42] hl

[1:46] ford

[1:50] eal

[1:54] ra

[1:57] ma

[1:59] ra


At 0:42 there is a choral declaration. (This declaration is not on the OST.) Doug Adams said in the AS-TTT that it was "Sceadufx" but those of us working on the lyrics just couldn't feel comfortable with this. The TTT Live choir lyrics give us the phonetic syllables KAHT LOO which both Sabsi and Danijel suspect are from The Abyss: Irkat-lukhud ma. I have to say this doesn't make sense in terms of context but when has that ever stopped anyone. I'm guessing it probably is from The Abyss.

 

Another version of this music is heard in the TTT EE Fan Credits without the solo part or the choral declaration at the beginning.

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Scene: The Ents attack Isengard +

CR-TTT Track: Thoden Rides Forth, C-12

Source Text: The Ents

 

[3:57] ri-
[3:58] than-
[3:59] nen

[4:01] i geven

[4:02] tha(n)-

[4:04] gen

[4:05] i harn

[4:07] Na

[4:08] fen-

[4:10] na(s) i

[4:11] daur l

[4:13] dr

[4:14] ritha-

[4:16] hen-

[4:17] nen E (phonetic lyrics indicate EH but Sabsi can't hear it)

[4:19] ri-

[4:20] stannen

[4:22] eryn

[4:23] e-

[4:25] chuiannen

[4:26] (i ng)elaidh

[4:28] dagrar (Sabsi's not sure about this section)

[4:29] ri-

[4:31] (s)tar

[4:32] thynd

[4:34] c-

[4:35] a

[4:42] tawar

[4:43] da(m)

[4:45] be(dir

[4:49] ganed

 

The singing on the OST leaves off the first note.

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Scene: Closing Credits : Gollum's Song

CR-TTT Track: Long Ways to Go Yet, C-14, 1:14 - 3:48

Source Text: Gollum's Song

 

Where once was light
Now darkness falls
Where once was love
Love is no more
Don't say
goodbye
Don't say
I didn't try

These tears we cry
Are falling rain
For all the lies you told us
The hurt, the blame!
And we will weep to be so alone
We are lost
We can never go home

So in the end
I'll be
what I will be
No loyal friend
Was ever there for me
Now we say
goodbye
We say
you didn't try...

These tears you cry
Have come too late
Take back the lies
The hurt, the blame!

And you will weep
When you face the end alone
You are lost!
You can never go home
You are lost! 
You can never go home

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Scene: Closing Credits : Faramir's Seduction +

CR-TTT Track: Long Ways to Go Yet, C-14

Source Text: The Seduction of the Ring

Thanks to: Sabsi

 

[4:16] I tuo,
[4:17] i mac-il (a)stal-
(macil sung over two notes)
[4:23] daron mauri
[4:27] nai cor(ma),
[4:31] i tuo i macil
[4:35] a lelyat
[4:38] turenna
[4:39] tu(renn)a

syllables in parenthesis have been left out

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Scene: Closing Credits : The Elves Leave Rivendell +

CR-TTT Track: Long Ways to Go Yet, C-14

Source Text: Hymn to Elbereth (4:45-5:02) and The Grace of the Valar (5:03-5:25)

syllables in parenthesis not sung

 

[4:45] Nev

[4:52] Elbereth Gil

[5:03] boe

[5:05] naer (gwannatach, an)

[5:08] nant

[5:12] ui(ch)

[5:17] ben-

[5:20] estel*

 

*The TTT Live Symphony lyrics tell us this last word is 'estel'. Neithr Sabsi or I think it sounds much like 'estel'.

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Scene: Closing Credits : This Is a Dream / Evenstar  +

CR-TTT Track: Long Ways to Go Yet, C-14

Source Text: Evenstar

 

[05:26] te
[05:30] li
[05:34] ach
[05:38] nad
[05:42] Es
[05:46] te
[05:50] li-o
[05:53] han

[06:13] Na
[06:17] boe
[06:21] u
[06:25] i

 

This music is similar to the scene, This Is a Dream / Evenstar, with only the choir singing (no solo voice)  It made some sense to me that the first two parts of Evenstar would have been reprised (the last part being left off). But the phonetic lyrics of the TTT Live symphony indicate that the third part of This Is a Dream / Evenstar is sung, then the second and the first part is left off. Below are the time stamps I had when I thought it was the first part being sung here.

 

[05:26] U
[05:30] i
[05:34] ve
[05:38] thed
[05:42] Na
[05:46] i
[05:50] on
[05:53] nad

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These time stamps work with the Complete Recordings of the TTT. If the song is on the regular or special edition CDs, you could find those timestamps on that track's cue by cue. To determine which track any song is on, you could consult the Master Lyrics List for the TTT.

Numbers after the scene indicate Disc and Track.

Sources for these lyrics as sung and their timestamps were developed over time, from many resources, and by many people. The most current source we have are the phonetic lyrics given to the choir for the TT Live to Projection Symphony. The work of figuring how to match source material with the phonetic lyrics and how to set them with timestamps has been done primarily by Sabsi with proofing and additional contributions by Danijel and myself.

Not all singing that's heard in the movies or on CDs is included in the TT Live Symphony. Some are from extended scenes (and the Live to Projection series involves the theatrical editions of the movies) or from Fan Club scrolls. Or maybe they're an alternate version of score found on one of the CDs. For those pieces, we are left utilizing a variety of resources---all limited in their own way. These include:

  • The TTT Annotated Score : This provides only the sketchiest of information about the lyrics. We are only told in which track each source song is used first. Successive uses aren't indicated and neither are we told which lines are sung.

  • Musical notation : These sources include primarily MusicNotes sheet music and notation found in the CR Liner notes.

  • Our own ears : This is the resource we started with that we relied upon greatly. Sometimes is served us well. Sometimes not. I once said, "Although we all are exacting in our labors, our ears are human, not Elven. We are making our best guesses sometimes. One of us hears 'ah' and the other hears 'nah'. I also am beginning to suspect that there's quite a bit of counterpoint singing going one, either between a choir and a soloist, or between different sections of the choir. We may never know what some of these lyrics are for sure."

    For those songs that are not in the TT Live Symphony, we may-in fact-never know what's sung for sure. There has never been any eagerness to provide this information in any official way. Whether the lyrics as sung followed the source text in a comprehensible way or not, Shore's intention was: "Its more about sound than about meaning." (comment by Doug Adams) So, if it's not supposed to 'make sense' (the thinking goes), there's no reason for us to know what is being sung. My point is, I don't care if it makes sense either. I just want to sing along. So far, my argument hasn't been proven persuasive.

Thanks: as I said before, all of the most recent work involving the TT Live Symphony has been done by Sabsi with some help from Danijel and myself. Whether that information confirmed what we had before or completely replaced what we thought before or filled in what we had no clue before... lots of people contributed to what we 'had before'. Those people include:

Ainu Laire

Angela "Aty" Ferreira

Danijel Legin (Brn_Kathard)

Elvenscribe07

 

Gwen Lloyd

Imladir

Incanus (Mikko Ojala)

Kurt Milano (Ridan)

 

Lisa Graves

MinasMorgul

Sabsi Fronek

TheTennisBallKid

 

Turesse

Tyrhael

Zigur

and the ones who started it all:

Ryszard Derdzinski and the folks at Gwaith-I-Phethdain

 

 

 

 

                         

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